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  • I don't know if anybody would be interested, but I am planning to stream a Super Robot Wars OG marathon on my Twitch Channel.  I plan on doing OGS (1+2), OG Gaiden, 2nd OG, and OG Moon Dwellers.  If people tune in I may do SRWZ1 and SRWV.  If anyone is interested, I will post updates as I prepare for the stream.

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  • Is anybody else as disappointed by G-Reco as I am?  I was so psyched to see another Tomino directed Gundam series.  I was a huge fan of Turn A, and that proved that he didn't have to be depressed to make a great series.  However, G-Reco just seems like a mess to me.  There are a few points that stand out hugely for me.  This will contain spoilers so if you haven't watched the show up to the most recent episode (Episode 21) and don't want anything to be ruined, stop reading here.

    1.  The story and dialogue seem to be convoluted.  I get that we're being introduced to a new timeline.  Things are meant to be different, and we're supposed to be a bit confused and have to learn the culture.  Turn A did the same thing and arguably had to make a larger transition, as we were dealing with a world that seemed to be early 1900's in a Gundam series, with no explanation until much later on.  However, even before the reveal, things were possible to piece together with what was shown and said in the show.  However in G-Reco, conversations between characters seem to just jump around with very little flow.  Characters seem to say things that come out of nowhere and have little to no relevance to what is going on.  Maybe I'm not watching the greatest translation, but things just seem really broken up.  Again, Tomino did the same thing with fast, broken up dialogue in Turn A, but things made more sense, even when I was watching a horrible fan sub in broken english.

    As far as the story goes, we the show mentions all these factions, and the various political issues between them, but not much is really elaborated on it and a lot of it just feels unnecessary.  Early we're told about a supposed conflict between Ameria and Gondwan, that seems to be a fairly big deal, and possibly an ongoing war/cold war, but we have yet to even see Gondwan at all.  We just have Ameria raiding Capital Territory because they disagree with the distribution of photon batteries.  Apparently Ameria hasn't learned that fighting a war on two fronts is a bad idea.  Then we get Towasanga, who supposedly controls the distribution of photon batteries to the Capital.  Judging by the early conversations, it seems they are technologically superior, and the initial introduction reminded me of that of Axis Zeon in Zeta.  However, that all that intimidation goes out the window immediately when the suits of the Capital, and Ameria/Megafauna take them out without much trouble.  Now we're introduced to the Venus Globe, who it's revealed makes the photon batteries and is again, insinuated to be more technologically advanced than what the Earth and Towasanga have, seeing as they basically have control over all technological development.  Again, everything is getting wrecked by our protagonists without much problem, which leads me to my next gripe.

    2. Bellri and the G-Self are unbeatable.  I don't have much of a problem with Bellri himself, or the G-Self, but more the way the battles are written.  I get that Bellri is a trained pilot, and that the G-Self is a very advanced mobile suit with some mysteries that make it very powerful.  However, even against veterans and ace custom/unique mobile suits, the G-Self rarely even gets hit or damaged.  First we get the Elf Bullock and Mask(Luin Lee).  This one I'll give since Mask is about as experienced as Bellri, and the Elf Bullock is actually an MP suit.  However, after that, it all seems to fall apart.  We get Dellensen and the Elf Bull.  It gets hyped up with Dellensen being his trainer, he'll have years of experience over Bellri, and a prototype suit, which in the Gundamverse generally means powerful.  However, he gets killed in a matter of minutes with the G-Self barely taking any hits.  Then we have the Mack Knife, which does nothing beyond taking out some grunts, but gets overwhelmed by the G-Self.  Next is Rockpie's Gaitrash, which has some kind of beam mantle that gets hyped up, but the G-Self repels it and leaves it severely damaged, with almost no harm to itself.  Most recently we get the G-IT corps who are presumably very experienced and piloting prototype mobile suits or mobile armors, and Bellri takes on 2-3 of them at a time with no trouble.  The one that bothered me most was the Gaeon.  This is a suit that appeared to be somewhat of a Gundam type, and had a good load out of weaponry, and in my opinion had a cool design.  As soon as it's design was shown, I was excited to see it in action, thinking it would be the first real opponent that would outmatch the G-Self.  At first without it's weapons it gets overwhelmed, but then it gets the Big Arm Pack, giving it 8 additional beam sabers/guns, shields and funnels.  However within minutes, Bellri wrecks half of its weapons, and in the end, the suit really doesn't prove to be any challenge to him.  Every other series, the protagonist has at least had some sort of trouble with ace customs and experienced pilots, but not here.  Everything is one sided.

    3.  No plot points are yet resolved.   It's pretty much just the Megafauna heading towards or running away from everything.  Things are just left behind.  I get that it looks like they will be coming back to the Earth Sphere and things will get rough, but again, this has been done before with much better storytelling.  First we get Ameria vs. Capital, until Towasanga shows up.  Then we have Capital and Ameria teaming up to fight Towasanga, due to them being a bigger threat.  However, that seems to not be the case, and then the Mask Corps (Capital) allies with Towasanga, and apparently Klim (Ameria), leaving the Megafauna alone, which results in the Megafauna just running away to the Venus Globe.  We have Cumpa, who is clearly scheming something, and may be the reason for these odd alliances, but we have gotten nothing on that front at all.  It just seems like one big mess of enemies and alliances with little reason or explanation for it.

    I can only hope that Tomino has some huge plan for the middle or late in the series, to make everything come together, but at this point I'm getting skeptical.  I'm not sure something on the level of the Turn A reveal near the end will make what's going on in this show worth it.  Anybody else have any thoughts or comments?  I'd love to hear what people have to say.

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  • I'll re-watch the last episode of Turn A Gundam whenever I have time to confirm it. Although I don't think it has a Mega Particle Cannon on every part of the body... when you saw it fire from the shoulder I believe it was actually fired from the Destruction Manipulator. I think the Turn X only has three bits that actually fire, the two particle cannons in the legs and the beam cannon from its Destruction Manipulator.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a__a0BkR0fg

    If you look closely at the Turn X's Bloody Siege attack, only the legs and Destruction Manipulator fire beams.

    I think the Turn X's movements make it look like there are actually more than three bits that are firing.

    + It doesn't look like the left hand or the chest has a particle cannon inside it.

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    • Look at the video on it's page. At 0:33 one of the shoulders fires a beam. In Super robot wars Z it is impossible to determine which parts are firing other than legs and manipulator because of the constant movement. However, in Gundam Musou, SD Gundam and VS. as well as A.C.E. series, I'm pretty sure all of the body parts are shown firing beams.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRcjGRDbxbY From SD G Generation Wars, all the units fire beams during it's Blood Siege attack. However, this is no more canon than SRW.

      While none of the body parts appear to have beam cannons, it can't rule out that they are capable of firing beams. The shoulder has no evidence of a beam cannon, but it clearly fires a beam in the video on the Turn X page. We don't even know how each bit is capable of flying on it's own, when they have no clear propulsion system. The problem with the Turn X is that it is by far the most mysterious mobile suit in the entire Gundam franchise, even more so than the Turn A.

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    • I re-watched the gundaminfo video, and yeah the shoulders have Mega Particle Cannons, although I'm not sure if the Destruction Manipulator fires a Mega Particle Cannon or just its normal beam cannon.

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    • I always assumed it was coming from the normal emitter. My guess is that each unit has some sort of an energy storage device (battery, condenser, E-pac, etc,) that stores energy for propulsion and firing beams when separated from whichever unit houses the generator (most likely the chest). It's also possible with how advanced the Turn X is, it possesses a wireless energy transfer system. Again though, total mystery, and we'll probably never know.

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  • Fine with me. Just so long as the number's right and each one isn't listed individually.

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