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  • I haven't decided whether or not I want to write retooled Gundam stories, but I am considering it slightly seriously. I've been exchanging talks on fanfiction.net with User: Wing Zero Alpha about potential ideas, and I thought it would be okay if you guys can help give me some advice on how I should do a Mobile Suit Gundam 2.0 as WZA described it. Be advised I won't spoil everything much less put everything you've advised into what I may or may not one day write.

    A few ideas I've been having were changing a few names and terms like Spacenoid, making the Zabi family among other characters a little less chaotic, lowering things like the "Bright Slap" among other things, adding some acronyms for organizations like the Titans and portmanteaus used to describe things such as the merging of "zenith" and "unionism", and changing the real world timeline to make it look like the Universal Century starts later rather than sooner. That last part might work in an alternate history such as Terminator and Star Trek, but I'm not so sure from a present day point of view.

    Thoughts, anyone? And please try to be understanding with everyone on here and on my similar journal entry on DeviantArt. On this. Got another similar thread about retools for Dragon Ball.

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    • Anyone?

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    • I volunteer as tribute!


      I think that little Amuro must have more scenes in the origin. Also,at the end of the original MSG until zeta, Amuro was treated just like any other people,and entered an high school to seek an replacement for lalah.

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    • Zakorello10 wrote: I volunteer as tribute!


      I think that little Amuro must have more scenes in the origin. Also,at the end of the original MSG until zeta, Amuro was treated just like any other people,and entered an high school to seek an replacement for lalah.

      If you mean let Sayla be his love interest, then that's something I would do.

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    • Perhaps add a scene at the end of the One Year War where Amuro is telling his ordeal to an EF Army Psychiatrist-which depending on how you write it, could end up being the entire retelling of Origin seeing as it could be said by him. 

      And if you decide to do Char's Counterattack, maybe a short scene where Amuro is "interviewed" by an unnamed Earth Federation Admiral about his entrance to Londo Bell. Amuro could give a few sly remarks saying that it's ironic how he's rejoining an organization that distrusted him, and then it's revealed that the Admiral questioning him is non other than Admiral John Kowen from Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory; Kowen remarks that he was put into the same position, what the Titans and all. 

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    • GMPilot0079 wrote: Perhaps add a scene at the end of the One Year War where Amuro is telling his ordeal to an EF Army Psychiatrist-which depending on how you write it, could end up being the entire retelling of Origin seeing as it could be said by him. 

      And if you decide to do Char's Counterattack, maybe a short scene where Amuro is "interviewed" by an unnamed Earth Federation Admiral about his entrance to Londo Bell. Amuro could give a few sly remarks saying that it's ironic how he's rejoining an organization that distrusted him, and then it's revealed that the Admiral questioning him is non other than Admiral John Kowen from Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory; Kowen remarks that he was put into the same position, what the Titans and all. 

      Not sure if Amuro is the therapy kind of guy, but that does sound promising. By the way, when I meant Origin, I mostly meant the OVAs they're making which tells the story of Sayla and Char among other things. Wouldn't mind having Garma's would've been father in law as a resistance leader, but from what I understand, Origin's Deikun and Jimba were portrayed as a little on the crazy train.

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    • Back from what I said, I believe it would be best if Deikun, Jimba, and Rose Lucia are shown less hysterical and more reasonable in what I write. Speaking of Rose, as you've noticed, I splitted her name and I'd rather have her as Deikun's unrequited admirer who still stays as his friend. Maybe even as his chief of staff while Degwin is his vice chairman. Don't know where to place Jimba in the government of Munzo, though. While StarCraft made the whole mistress thing understandable in an aristocratic confederacy, it doesn't sound very democratic for Gundam. Plus, I'm a believer in good public reception. Which is why I want to change Deikun's first and middle names and replace them with a split version of his book philosophy, Contolism, which I'll change into Zeonism after the Zeon Party which used to be called the Zenith Union when the man was a street activist.

      WZA likes to tell me he's not very big on Lalah, and, after mulling it over, she doesn't seem like the right person to be the women Char, nor Amuro, should end up with. Let alone the first reason they're archrivals. I wouldn't want to delete her, of course, just downsize her role to Amuro's frenemy and Char's student in all things Newtype and what happens to her is only a continuance to what Char begins by attacking Side 7. I've already decided who my Char and Amuro should fall in love with.

      Speaking of Amuro, I hate the way he and Kamille were treated by their rather opinionated and career-minded parents. I'd rather let them have moments of genuine family love. Not that I want them turned into saps. It's Gundam, not Winnie the Pooh.

      Also, for all Gundams that use teens and younger in their main casts, I believe taking inspiration from the Star Wars planet of Naboo, where adulthood, the right to vote, and the opportunity for public service are based on intellectual maturity rather mere biology would be appropriate for the governments to adopt as a policy. Kind of like emancipation. At least that was the case in the Legends section.

      Thoughts?

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    • Branching off of your last paragraph though this doesn't occur in the Origin, the fact that so many youths were conscripted by the Federation could be a point of contention; the Federation is left with a war torn Earth and half of mankind dead-thus they would be financially strapped to do anything. Thus certain things are "cut" such as benefits for non-active veterans and enlisted soldiers/pilots. For example the United States is currently having issues with veterans' lack of benefits-such things could echo current things like that. Thus a percieved lack of commitment to the men who served on the Federation's part could be a minor thing. 

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    • GMPilot0079 wrote: Branching off of your last paragraph though this doesn't occur in the Origin, the fact that so many youths were conscripted by the Federation could be a point of contention; the Federation is left with a war torn Earth and half of mankind dead-thus they would be financially strapped to do anything. Thus certain things are "cut" such as benefits for non-active veterans and enlisted soldiers/pilots. For example the United States is currently having issues with veterans' lack of benefits-such things could echo current things like that. Thus a percieved lack of commitment to the men who served on the Federation's part could be a minor thing. 

      Okay. Sounds interesting.

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    • I'll definitely establish Amuro and his fellow teens from Side 7 as having been Federal personnel for a few years before the One Year War using the Naboo policy thing I mentioned in order to make it look like those crazy kids actually knew what they were doing and I'd have Sleggar already on the White Base and Woody with Matilda to insure people knew them longer. And while that characters like Killing and Bask appeared years after the first show, I figure that since I'm making a retool I can include as much character meetings as I can think of that sound possible enough. I actually asked WZA on whether or not it's wise to include Cima for Zeta by making her survive long enough for a Titan membership like in one of those games. It's probably not, but it's a suggestion. Any other different outcomes you guy can think of?

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    • Observer Supreme wrote:
      I'll definitely establish Amuro and his fellow teens from Side 7 as having been Federal personnel for a few years before the One Year War using the Naboo policy thing I mentioned in order to make it look like those crazy kids actually knew what they were doing and I'd have Sleggar already on the White Base and Woody with Matilda to insure people knew them longer. And while that characters like Killing and Bask appeared years after the first show, I figure that since I'm making a retool I can include as much character meetings as I can think of that sound possible enough. I actually asked WZA on whether or not it's wise to include Cima for Zeta by making her survive long enough for a Titan membership like in one of those games. It's probably not, but it's a suggestion. Any other different outcomes you guy can think of?

      Interesting, this is similar to the MSG novels however, would Ryu still be in the mentor role to Amuro, Kai and Hayato or would that role be taken over by Sleggar? 

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    • I think they'd share the role and try to act as reasonable authority figures where Bright's being his harsh and aloof self. I actually plan on that last part being the result of a certain confrontation that resulted from the Spacer independence movements and ended badly with Noa blaming Spacers for it. I can imagine and even approve of characters like Amuro and Mirai giving him a hard time both verbally and physically when he makes rude comments about Spacers before he learns the terrible results from his discrimination and gets better overtime. I've been thinking of letting Ramba Ral live long enough to see more of the series as well. By the way, was there a given reason why there weren't any Newtype detectors of a sort? I think giving Deikun some experience in neuroscience would be helpful alongside expanding Newtype abilities.

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    • There weren't any Newtype detector because the specific Brain Wave of Newtype was discovered very late (which lead to the first psycommu) on the OYW. It's the only really physic manifestation of Newtype abilities and Zeon wasn't in a position to throw money for Newtype researchs that were not in a goal of making new Newtype weapon.

      At first It was the skill of the pilot which was used to say if someone was a newtype or not, so may be a detector that use "Time Reaction" (to see how fast pilots plan or react to the danger) instead of measuring Brain wave could be logical if you want to follow how the technology was developed during the OYW.

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    • Time reaction sounds like a useful first step. I can imagine Deikun testing his kids in such a way to figure it out. But I think changing the Flanagan Institute's founding year earlier would be good. While I understand that keeping secrets comes in handy and they had to consider technological limitations, I don't necessarily think it's impossible for them to accomplish such a feet with the Feds unaware. I plan on having the White Base crew fight Zeon from January 1st, 79 U.C. to its first year anniversary, give Sasro Zabi more scenes, and include the scrapped character of Miharu Zabi, you see?

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    • If I would change anything, it would be Puru Two's fate.

      Having her just slump over and die with no acknowledgement of the fact she died just pisses me off.

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    • Falloutghoul wrote: If I would change anything, it would be Puru Two's fate.

      Having her just slump over and die with no acknowledgement of the fact she died just pisses me off.

      Yeah, clones are people, too, as far as I can tell.

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    • Will you have Amuro retire at the end of the war? I can see his expertise coming into play as an advisor or test pilot at Jaburo. I can see the Federation using that to develop mobile suits for the Titans leading to Amuro becoming distraught at how he was used by the Titans; not that I want him to join Axis Zeon or anything, but just enough for him to agree with Char's "Old Generation cannot build the new era," line of thought yet not be as extreme enough to wipe them out. 

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    • GMPilot0079 wrote: Will you have Amuro retire at the end of the war? I can see his expertise coming into play as an advisor or test pilot at Jaburo. I can see the Federation using that to develop mobile suits for the Titans leading to Amuro becoming distraught at how he was used by the Titans; not that I want him to join Axis Zeon or anything, but just enough for him to agree with Char's "Old Generation cannot build the new era," line of thought yet not be as extreme enough to wipe them out. 

      Well, I can imagine him staying around for a few years as a consultant before buying his own home with the money he's earned from his technological and military exploits with his love interest who keeps him less reclusive than he was in the original. However, the families of his mansion staff would be threatened by Hymen's people which forces them to be spies, but Amuro and his future wife are able to pass through their home unseen with secret passageways that would allow them to play crucial, behind the scene roles in the Karaba Equality Group. An activist union named in honor of the Side 3 colony where Deikun was born to vouch for reform in the Federation while preparing to fought the Titans. I didn't quite understand why the AEUG was named as such, nor why it wasn't one with the Karaba, so I combined them with a new name that could be a pronounceable acronym. Unfortunately for the PR lovers, Amuro and Deikun's own children decide not to play as poster leaders partly because they don't see themselves as qualified for the task, they don't want to encourage Newtype extremists and opponents, and Char actually wants to move on from his past live after everything he's done. But I can see them placing Bright as a spy under Om and help Kou with his legal problems. Speaking of Axis Zeon, I thought of one of their number playing an important role in Operation British and the Titans creation and dies thinking of himself first and foremost like the thug he is while another plays a crucial part in Char's descent to counterattacking madness and dies at the end saying sorry. If I wasn't on the iPhone, I'd give links. These are all good ideas, but how about something that didn't happen in the original? One of my ideas is to use space pirates like the Cima fleet and Crossbones vanguard for the death of Char's namesake, the beginning of Bright's anti-spacer bigotry, and Killing's background. I thought the former's canon depiction was a bit harsh, even by Char's standards and I figured since Killing's background wasn't listed, I can add some imagination. Like making him the Arl Howe of Gundam of while Gihren's complete monstrous nature is downplayed due to the presence of Miharu among other things.

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    • Interestingly enough, totally irrelevant but the talk of this has me imagining Amuro and Kayra, scouting for potential pilots to be part of Londo Bell immediately after the events of ZZ Gundam (UC 0089-0091) because Amuro would be wary of the Federation, he would be looking into pilots that were "dishonorably" discharged for insubordination or pilots who left the Titans for personal reasons yet not loyal to Zeon.


      This would lead him on a path that has him encountering Kou Uraki, Chuck Kieth, Ford Romfellow and Jack Bayard. Still trying to figure out the conversations they would have, but all of them seem to lead to Amuro, Kou, Kieth and Kayra getting wasted in a bar somewhere with Kou badgering Amuro to play a game of darts to see how well a Newtype does while drunk.

      I have a horrible sense of humor I know haha.

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    • GMPilot0079 wrote: Interestingly enough, totally irrelevant but the talk of this has me imagining Amuro and Kayra, scouting for potential pilots to be part of Londo Bell immediately after the events of ZZ Gundam (UC 0089-0091) because Amuro would be wary of the Federation, he would be looking into pilots that were "dishonorably" discharged for insubordination or pilots who left the Titans for personal reasons yet not loyal to Zeon.


      This would lead him on a path that has him encountering Kou Uraki, Chuck Kieth, Ford Romfellow and Jack Bayard. Still trying to figure out the conversations they would have, but all of them seem to lead to Amuro, Kou, Kieth and Kayra getting wasted in a bar somewhere with Kou badgering Amuro to play a game of darts to see how well a Newtype does while drunk.

      I have a horrible sense of humor I know haha.

      Sounds fascinating enough. Even if I can't write the scene, it make some useful background information. I have trouble with telling funny scenes as well. At least in an original sense.

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    • Speaking of changed fates, what's the general consensus of what would've happened to Bernard Wiseman, if he survived and surrendered to Christina Mackenzie? An event I plan to have occur much earlier than Christmas Day. My first thought is that he cooperates enough to stay away from the hanged man's noose or a lifelong cell, but any further relationship he might have with Chris might be slow to approach.

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    • Not a bad idea that Bernie can be saved against information, and he can join AEUG like Shin Matsunaga. Christina can join AEUG too after she understand the problem of the federation and like that the lovers can stay together.

      meh it's just an idea but they are two people who see the dark side of their camp so it seems logic that after OYW they join AEUG (if Bernie stay alive).

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    • Xanbie wrote: Not a bad idea that Bernie can be saved against information, and he can join AEUG like Shin Matsunaga. Christina can join AEUG too after she understand the problem of the federation and like that the lovers can stay together.

      meh it's just an idea but they are two people who see the dark side of their camp so it seems logic that after OYW they join AEUG (if Bernie stay alive).

      That sounds workable. Although I plan on having a sort of twist for Shin and Johnny Ridden.

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    • Xanbie wrote:
      Not a bad idea that Bernie can be saved against information, and he can join AEUG like Shin Matsunaga. Christina can join AEUG too after she understand the problem of the federation and like that the lovers can stay together.

      meh it's just an idea but they are two people who see the dark side of their camp so it seems logic that after OYW they join AEUG (if Bernie stay alive).

      I see both Bernie and Chris taking up back stage "Behind the Scenes" roles as either insiders or spies/infiltrators.


      Because 0083 Stardust Memory hinted that Chris (Or someone that bears a striking resemblance to her) works at Anaheim Electronics after the war, I can see Chris being an insider working for the AEUG-either overseeing their secret mobile suit supply shipments to the AEUG/Karaba forces or testing a few designs before they're sent off. That or she is an aide for Wong Lee.

      Bernie I can see infiltrating Axis/Neo Zeon on a mission from Quattro/Char to gather intelligence on both troop strength/weapons tech or just the general social situation of Axis itself seeing that Char left Axis a few years before the start of Zeta Gundam-that is if we are still going by some of the canon. In that case, Char can formulate a plan using the information that Bernie gathered. This would replace the role that Reccoa played; albiet slightly and perhaps eliminate the condition where she turns traitor.

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    • GMPilot0079 wrote:

      Xanbie wrote:
      Not a bad idea that Bernie can be saved against information, and he can join AEUG like Shin Matsunaga. Christina can join AEUG too after she understand the problem of the federation and like that the lovers can stay together.

      meh it's just an idea but they are two people who see the dark side of their camp so it seems logic that after OYW they join AEUG (if Bernie stay alive).

      I see both Bernie and Chris taking up back stage "Behind the Scenes" roles as either insiders or spies/infiltrators.


      Because 0083 Stardust Memory hinted that Chris (Or someone that bears a striking resemblance to her) works at Anaheim Electronics after the war, I can see Chris being an insider working for the AEUG-either overseeing their secret mobile suit supply shipments to the AEUG/Karaba forces or testing a few designs before they're sent off. That or she is an aide for Wong Lee.

      Bernie I can see infiltrating Axis/Neo Zeon on a mission from Quattro/Char to gather intelligence on both troop strength/weapons tech or just the general social situation of Axis itself seeing that Char left Axis a few years before the start of Zeta Gundam-that is if we are still going by some of the canon. In that case, Char can formulate a plan using the information that Bernie gathered. This would replace the role that Reccoa played; albiet slightly and perhaps eliminate the condition where she turns traitor.

      Those both sound good. But I wouldn't want to give Bernie a long-term mission given his experiences under Killing's command. I'll might make Char a little more open about the deaths of some of his loved ones to his sequel admirers which might make them less romantically obsessive about him under the correct assumption he needs some space or obsessive about him for different reasons. Speaking of Reccoa, I'm afraid I'm at a loss of how precisely she fell from grace. I know that her feelings for Char were unrequited which resulted in her being charmed/brainwashed by Scirocco until she got killed by Gable's hands. I just haven't found what sort of events led to her turn.

      Also, I've been wondering on how I should play this all out. I want to do it in a chronological order, but I'm sure if I want to lay all the cards on the table immediately, so to speak. For example, Glemy Toto was supposedly born the same year The Origin chronicles Char's return to Munzo, but I'm not confident that I should include a scene that has Gihren Zabi talking with Cecilia Irene about him and his parentage, regardless of my intentions for chronologic and novelization.

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    • How about we also talk about technological possibilities and limitations as well? Aside from the Newtype detector, I was thinking of space elevators, energy shields, solar radiated missiles, interstellar travel, and terraforming discussed, if not experimented on, in the Universal Century. The one thing I don't like about Canon Deikun's call was the implication that Humans should stay in space around Earth forever. While it makes sense in an environmental friendly sort of way, I don't think it means we shouldn't expand our horizons, explore other worlds, and experience true nature that isn't made artificially on a space colony. Not that I'm going to add aliens, mind you. That's something for Sunrise to figure out for themselves when they decide they want to come back on certain things.

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    • Interstellar travel is a really interresting subject for a gundam story, but all we know in the Universal Century is that Judau Ashta/Grey Stoke leave the Solar System for Proxima Centauri in Victory Gundam Outside Story. In the volume 9 of gundam unicorn there is also a reflection about interstellar travel where banagher show two problems, the first is that the average lifespan of human (which is too short for long travel) and the second is the meaning of space travel (colonisation and terraforming lead to destroy an other planet like we do with Earth). It is a really good subject to develop.

      Solar weapons is a great idea and in the OYW we can see their massive power, but only colony laser use solar energie in the UC. It's strange that federation and zeon see what can do solar weapon and use it only for colony laser. I can see space colony which suffer of mutation generation after generation, caused by solar radiation missiles burst.

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    • Xanbie wrote:

      Interstellar travel is a really interresting subject for a gundam story, but all we know in the Universal Century is that Judau Ashta/Grey Stoke leave the Solar System for Proxima Centauri in Victory Gundam Outside Story. In the volume 9 of gundam unicorn there is also a reflection about interstellar travel where banagher show two problems, the first is that the average lifespan of human (which is too short for long travel) and the second is the meaning of space travel (colonisation and terraforming lead to destroy an other planet like we do with Earth). It is a really good subject to develop.

      Solar weapons is a great idea and in the OYW we can see their massive power, but only colony laser use solar energie in the UC. It's strange that federation and zeon see what can do solar weapon and use it only for colony laser. I can see space colony which suffer of mutation generation after generation, caused by solar radiation missiles burst.

      Thanks. I wouldn't want to deviate the setting too much, so to speak. I'd still want things in the Earth and Jovian Spheres, so I'll keep some things such as terraforming and interstellar travel as more discussion material in experimental stages instead of something that's already done. The Solar weapons, on the other hand, I think can be done with the right time and resources as a sort of loophole exploitation and it's based on the idea of using solar power for spacecraft propulsion. There's a lot to look over here, I think.

      I made these ideas partly because I want the UC to talk a little more science-wise and partly because I want them to give Miharu Zabi a big role other than being the youngest child of Degwin. Which I admit to being inspired by what WZA told me how he interprets her in his story, Mobile Suit Gundam Alpha. When he gets back to it, anyway. To both of us, the concept of Miharu refers to a peaceful patroness of art, science, and philanthropy who loved her family and friends a great deal, but comes to make a stand in the end. I want her to be the crucial link that keeps the Zabis together and shows that while they are vindictive, power hungry dictators in one view, a second shows them as Munzo's enlightened monarchs, and a third shows that they are still a family, who in my story, are disciplined in following the greater good and fulfilling their responsibilities to that principle to the letter, even if they get something out of it, anyway.

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    • It's not that I disapprove of the Titans simply being called what they were, but such a naming almost strikes me as more suited to a gang than an actual military force. I know the G.I. Joes were named similarly, but that was more of a codename. For the Titans, I've been thinking of calling their organization T.I.T.A.N.I.C., which stands for Terrestrial Initiative for Terrorist Attack Neutralization and Investigation Corps and Hymen's the Director of Intelligence they ultimately answer to. Might have to promote some characters, though.

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    • Is it possible for Gato to be a little more reasonable? Reasonable as in Kou and Cima talking him out of his craziness in an attempt to prevent the colony drop. There's still a drop, and Gato dies, but Kou gets help in his court martial from the K.E.G. and he's able to keep his relationship with Nina.

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    • Observer Supreme wrote:

      Falloutghoul wrote: If I would change anything, it would be Puru Two's fate.

      Having her just slump over and die with no acknowledgement of the fact she died just pisses me off.

      Yeah, clones are people, too, as far as I can tell.

      A little expansion. Does anyone have any ideas on how to explain the role of cloning technology?

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    • Just thought of an expansion of Anaheim's name to fit with it's conglomerate nature instead of a pure technology firm. A.E.O.N., which stands for Anaheim Electronics, Obligations, and Negotiations which accidentally fits with it's multiple contract style of business.

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    • The role of cloning technology could be explain with the need of workforce (the OYW kill a lot of people in is early day), or for the war: instead of making each man a super newtype soldier, make one supe newtype soldier and clone him/her. Finally cloning technology could be used to keep "pure" human (without evolution or mutation in genes), i mean that's some people don't want human to evolve physically or culturally / socially and they see the change as a bad thing.

      For Gato i'm not really agree, he is an extremist and he is the exemple that's some people can not change the way they think. I can not see him go out of his "madness", but if you want to do a more philanthropic Mobile Suit Gundam why not.

      An oder idea for anaheim's conglomera: AESC (Anaheim Earth and Solar system Corporation) which show the power and the domination of anaheim on the solar system for 100 first year of the U.C.

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    • Xanbie wrote: The role of cloning technology could be explain with the need of workforce (the OYW kill a lot of people in is early day), or for the war: instead of making each man a super newtype soldier, make one supe newtype soldier and clone him/her. Finally cloning technology could be used to keep "pure" human (without evolution or mutation in genes), i mean that's some people don't want human to evolve physically or culturally / socially and they see the change as a bad thing.

      For Gato i'm not really agree, he is an extremist and he is the exemple that's some people can not change the way they think. I can not see him go out of his "madness", but if you want to do a more philanthropic Mobile Suit Gundam why not.

      An oder idea for anaheim's conglomera: AESC (Anaheim Earth and Solar system Corporation) which show the power and the domination of anaheim on the solar system for 100 first year of the U.C.

      That sounds promising. I was thinking for reasons why people would be interested in it and how Axis Zeon came to be a bit tough for the Earth aligned forces. Not that the idea of a force of 30,000+ sounds impossible, uninteresting, or uninspiring, but I think there should've been more that two conjoined asteroids could carry and I was actually thinking of adding at least two more named after Degwin's first and second wives.

      Maybe, but I was thinking on what if instead of going all guns blazing against even allies like Cima, Kou opts to see the truth of her sincerity to end the violence in her voice if not her eyes and upon seeing Nina act a little emotional, he tries to convince Gato of the negative consequences for Earthlings and Spacers alike from the drop. He could use the rumors of the operation still being negotiated between Hymen and those in charge to convince the guy some things aren't worth it if they only breed more injustice. Besides, I don't think it's less philanthropic than bitter sweet.

      Sounds good, but mankind in the show's wasn't seen to have built solar farms on Mercury while the habitats at Axis and Jupiter are more like rogue states than anything. I like to explain that was because Georges Mercenas and his group were easily bribed by traditional fueling corporations that would've gone out of business if helium 3 energy was more available and easily paranoid from the talk of colonial rebellion and hostile alien first contact which is why the Jupiter Energy Fleet isn't exactly noteworthy or seen to have their own colonies at first. I think the kind of NGO they are is more governmentally organized in real life than the public would like to know. Which makes them easy pickings for help from the Zabis who I think can be considered the greater scoop villains of the era by inspiring not only their own remnants, but many other would be conquerers as well.

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    • Sorry about stepping into here. But I too have been thinking of various different ways of rewriting UC and I am also a follower of WZA's work as well. However I am not really thinking about doing it so completely as WZA has done and you are planning on. I originally got my own ideas for a UC Rewrite from the various different "what if..." scernios seen in the game Gundam vs. Zeta Gundam. Like certain characters living, or joining different group or organziation. For example, one such scenario is that Lalah lives which sees Amuro joing AEUG when it is first formed. Therefore some of my ideas stem from that like here is a through backstory I created for Sayla for one of my Alt-UC story ideas:

      "Sayla after the end of the original series like several members of the White Base crew remains in the Federation Forces before being drummed out of service a short-time later due to becoming pregant. (not saying who the father is) She then settles somewhere in North America where she has her baby and restarts medical school. During this Felcity Ral, younger sister to Ramba Ral, and an OC, finds her and ends up as her caretaker allowing Sayla to focus on her schooling. Then fast forward to 0083 when Sayla is happily going about her schooling and her new family. However around November 10 she has a convention she has to take part in therefore leaves home. Then she watches in horror as the colony drop hits North America and most likely killing her child along with her new family. Soon after she decides on rejoining the Federation Forces as a mobile suit pilot. For time she works with the Titans against Zeon renmants on Earth, never really joining them, but still working for them. Around late 0086 she runs into Hayato and Kai who quickly tell her of the artocies the Titans have done in space stuff she never knew. She then defects from the Federation and becomes a member of Karaba."

      That is only a small portion of the various different Alt-UC ideas I have had over the course of the last few years. Another contiunes with that basic idea where right before starting his campaign against the Federation Char is surprised by a visit from Sayla who tells him about what happened to her child and tells him of the true bad guys behind everything: the Vist Foundation.

      Anyways I am going on a little tanget here therefore shall put forth a suggestion. Change the Titan main mobile suit from the Hizack, let it be the main regular Federation Force MS alongside the now aging GM II to another machine like the Galbady beta or something like that. Just a suggestion. Anyways that is about it for me.

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    • Deathzealotzero wrote: Sorry about stepping into here. But I too have been thinking of various different ways of rewriting UC and I am also a follower of WZA's work as well. However I am not really thinking about doing it so completely as WZA has done and you are planning on. I originally got my own ideas for a UC Rewrite from the various different "what if..." scernios seen in the game Gundam vs. Zeta Gundam. Like certain characters living, or joining different group or organziation. For example, one such scenario is that Lalah lives which sees Amuro joing AEUG when it is first formed. Therefore some of my ideas stem from that like here is a through backstory I created for Sayla for one of my Alt-UC story ideas:

      "Sayla after the end of the original series like several members of the White Base crew remains in the Federation Forces before being drummed out of service a short-time later due to becoming pregant. (not saying who the father is) She then settles somewhere in North America where she has her baby and restarts medical school. During this Felcity Ral, younger sister to Ramba Ral, and an OC, finds her and ends up as her caretaker allowing Sayla to focus on her schooling. Then fast forward to 0083 when Sayla is happily going about her schooling and her new family. However around November 10 she has a convention she has to take part in therefore leaves home. Then she watches in horror as the colony drop hits North America and most likely killing her child along with her new family. Soon after she decides on rejoining the Federation Forces as a mobile suit pilot. For time she works with the Titans against Zeon renmants on Earth, never really joining them, but still working for them. Around late 0086 she runs into Hayato and Kai who quickly tell her of the artocies the Titans have done in space stuff she never knew. She then defects from the Federation and becomes a member of Karaba."

      That is only a small portion of the various different Alt-UC ideas I have had over the course of the last few years. Another contiunes with that basic idea where right before starting his campaign against the Federation Char is surprised by a visit from Sayla who tells him about what happened to her child and tells him of the true bad guys behind everything: the Vist Foundation.

      Anyways I am going on a little tanget here therefore shall put forth a suggestion. Change the Titan main mobile suit from the Hizack, let it be the main regular Federation Force MS alongside the now aging GM II to another machine like the Galbady beta or something like that. Just a suggestion. Anyways that is about it for me.

      I guess I need a lot of information to pick up on. From the machines to those what ifs. Especially since I wanted Cima and to a degree Ramba based on that last one. By the way, is that really what happened to Lalah in the game, or is it one of yours?

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    • We don't really see Lalah in game after the OYW era... but she is alive and it leads to Amuro joining the AEUG when it first formed. I think she is Amuro Partner/Ally in the last mission of his OYW mission-chain, though I am not sure been awhile since I played that section of the game. Other examples of saved characters include Emma, Katz (grumble), Lila, and Four. They each get an "Alive" Mission Chain along with their main ally/paramour like Kamille gets a "Alive Four" Mission Chain after you manage to keep her alive during the Kilimanjaro Mission.

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    • Deathzealotzero wrote: We don't really see Lalah in game after the OYW era... but she is alive and it leads to Amuro joining the AEUG when it first formed. I think she is Amuro Partner/Ally in the last mission of his OYW mission-chain, though I am not sure been awhile since I played that section of the game. Other examples of saved characters include Emma, Katz (grumble), Lila, and Four. They each get an "Alive" Mission Chain along with their main ally/paramour like Kamille gets a "Alive Four" Mission Chain after you manage to keep her alive during the Kilimanjaro Mission.

      I see. Already put in something on Mecha Talk for a listing. Could be some fascinating material. And from what I gather on TV Tropes, Katz in Zeta did seem to act a bit kiddy for the sake of seriousness. I'm probably going to have to grow him up somehow.

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    • Definitely have to think of backgrounds of some prominent characters here and there.

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    • Observer Supreme wrote:

      GMPilot0079 wrote: Branching off of your last paragraph though this doesn't occur in the Origin, the fact that so many youths were conscripted by the Federation could be a point of contention; the Federation is left with a war torn Earth and half of mankind dead-thus they would be financially strapped to do anything. Thus certain things are "cut" such as benefits for non-active veterans and enlisted soldiers/pilots. For example the United States is currently having issues with veterans' lack of benefits-such things could echo current things like that. Thus a percieved lack of commitment to the men who served on the Federation's part could be a minor thing. 

      Okay. Sounds interesting.

      A little update. Aside from enlisted youths, the Feds would be desperate enough to conscript certain prisoners and mentally disturbed individuals so long as their unwelcoming tendencies aren't performed on Federal civilians and soldiers on a needless basis and such a policy is enforced, maintained, and evaluated by Hymen which he uses in his own power plays and planning for his eventual T.I.T.A.N.I.C. forces. Those prisoners/mental patients who the Federal government feels they can't recruit or care for are quickly "euthanized" in the name of the greater good. More better soldiers like Secretary General Revil aren't proud of it, but are ordered to allow it by the panicked President and Assemblymen. Leaving many people hoping that on the off chance of Revil surviving the war and winning it for the Earth will put him in a position to change the whole Sphere just as Tomino described it was in his novels where Amuro literally got in bed with Sayla before getting killed for whatever crazy reason.

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    • oups sorry don't see. So yes your idea of pisoners and mentally disturbed individuals isn't a bad, here in french we have the "Foreign Legion" which often says that it is composed of people with criminal record (even if it's only rumors). The foreign Legion is a part of the french army which is deployed on the front of the battlefield.

      So i can see special unit of criminal and with OYW, which deal a lot of damage and kill generals, they take better position in the hierarchy of the army.

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    • Xanbie wrote: oups sorry don't see. So yes your idea of pisoners and mentally disturbed individuals isn't a bad, here in french we have the "Foreign Legion" which often says that it is composed of people with criminal record (even if it's only rumors). The foreign Legion is a part of the french army which is deployed on the front of the battlefield.

      So i can see special unit of criminal and with OYW, which deal a lot of damage and kill generals, they take better position in the hierarchy of the army.

      I was thinking of making them something like rivals to the White Base crew who grow up over the war while Hymen's people grow worse.

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    • Why not and i think that it could be great element in your idea to do a more science-wise UC. With them as rival you can show how humans can corrupt technologies which were created for good purpose (and so that's human need to be more carefull in the way they use science).

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    • Xanbie wrote: Why not and i think that it could be great element in your idea to do a more science-wise UC. With them as rival you can show how humans can corrupt technologies which were created for good purpose (and so that's human need to be more carefull in the way they use science).

      Yeah, I think working about more modern wise would do a lot of wonders. I mean after the first show, there was this scientist made a theory about warping space to travel across galaxies. Don't want to advance too far though, but I've been planning on showing the Solar Ray Cannon and Solar Flare System based around the solar propulsion thing that solar sails would use made initially to make interstellar travel a reality before the one behind it dies and her personal work is used against her pacifistic intentions, especially by her own brother. Just trying to think of a lot of technological ways the Antarctic Treaty being subverted through loopholes, you see.

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    • Observer Supreme wrote:

      Observer Supreme wrote:

      GMPilot0079 wrote: Branching off of your last paragraph though this doesn't occur in the Origin, the fact that so many youths were conscripted by the Federation could be a point of contention; the Federation is left with a war torn Earth and half of mankind dead-thus they would be financially strapped to do anything. Thus certain things are "cut" such as benefits for non-active veterans and enlisted soldiers/pilots. For example the United States is currently having issues with veterans' lack of benefits-such things could echo current things like that. Thus a percieved lack of commitment to the men who served on the Federation's part could be a minor thing. 

      Okay. Sounds interesting.

      A little update. Aside from enlisted youths, the Feds would be desperate enough to conscript certain prisoners and mentally disturbed individuals so long as their unwelcoming tendencies aren't performed on Federal civilians and soldiers on a needless basis and such a policy is enforced, maintained, and evaluated by Hymen which he uses in his own power plays and planning for his eventual T.I.T.A.N.I.C. forces. Those prisoners/mental patients who the Federal government feels they can't recruit or care for are quickly "euthanized" in the name of the greater good. More better soldiers like Secretary General Revil aren't proud of it, but are ordered to allow it by the panicked President and Assemblymen. Leaving many people hoping that on the off chance of Revil surviving the war and winning it for the Earth will put him in a position to change the whole Sphere just as Tomino described it was in his novels where Amuro literally got in bed with Sayla before getting killed for whatever crazy reason.

      Of course, as WZA pointed to me on my fan fiction account, some Earthling fanatics who lost loved ones to the Zeeks would be just as good.

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    • Observer Supreme wrote:

      Observer Supreme wrote:

      Observer Supreme wrote:

      GMPilot0079 wrote: Branching off of your last paragraph though this doesn't occur in the Origin, the fact that so many youths were conscripted by the Federation could be a point of contention; the Federation is left with a war torn Earth and half of mankind dead-thus they would be financially strapped to do anything. Thus certain things are "cut" such as benefits for non-active veterans and enlisted soldiers/pilots. For example the United States is currently having issues with veterans' lack of benefits-such things could echo current things like that. Thus a percieved lack of commitment to the men who served on the Federation's part could be a minor thing. 

      Okay. Sounds interesting.

      A little update. Aside from enlisted youths, the Feds would be desperate enough to conscript certain prisoners and mentally disturbed individuals so long as their unwelcoming tendencies aren't performed on Federal civilians and soldiers on a needless basis and such a policy is enforced, maintained, and evaluated by Hymen which he uses in his own power plays and planning for his eventual T.I.T.A.N.I.C. forces. Those prisoners/mental patients who the Federal government feels they can't recruit or care for are quickly "euthanized" in the name of the greater good. More better soldiers like Secretary General Revil aren't proud of it, but are ordered to allow it by the panicked President and Assemblymen. Leaving many people hoping that on the off chance of Revil surviving the war and winning it for the Earth will put him in a position to change the whole Sphere just as Tomino described it was in his novels where Amuro literally got in bed with Sayla before getting killed for whatever crazy reason.

      Of course, as WZA pointed to me on my fan fiction account, some Earthling fanatics who lost loved ones to the Zeeks would be just as good.

      Especially if they're former POWs of Zeon.

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    • Perhaps we're rushing in too fast. Why don't we start with the Origin OVA possibilities and how it could work with what was established in side materials as a start? Origin is chronologically the first not counting that bomb speech in Unicorn's beginning, after all. Then again, the other three OVAs that completes it haven't been released or made yet. Might have to wait. Also, I've been thinking of starting The Origin with a pre-story narration similar to the thing that the novelization of Revenge of the Sith starts with that describes the ambience of the Universal Century.

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    • Observer Supreme wrote: Perhaps we're rushing in too fast. Why don't we start with the Origin OVA possibilities and how it could work with what was established in side materials as a start? Origin is chronologically the first not counting that bomb speech in Unicorn's beginning, after all. Then again, the other three OVAs that completes it haven't been released or made yet. Might have to wait. Also, I've been thinking of starting The Origin with a pre-story narration similar to the thing that the novelization of Revenge of the Sith starts with that describes the ambience of the Universal Century.

      It's on the second page after the title.

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    • This is what I mean about ambience. Although from what I've been thinking also describes love and conflict as much as distance.

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      Zakorello10 wrote: I volunteer as tribute!


      I think that little Amuro must have more scenes in the origin. Also,at the end of the original MSG until zeta, Amuro was treated just like any other people,and entered an high school to seek an replacement for lalah.

      If you mean let Sayla be his love interest, then that's something I would do.

      I'm going to have to see how the Origin OVA works out, but I've been thinking on how to introduce Sayla to Amuro in my Mobile Suit Gundam 2.0 as WZA coined. Because the manga is extensive being a retelling of the original show with some peeks at the past, I don't quite know what sort of role Amuro played while Artesia and Casval lost their childhoods, but I'll see what I can do.

      Anyway, it goes like this. After going to the New Texas colony as a result of their near deaths on Earth, Teabolo's injuries continue to discomfort him with the prolonging not helping much, but he still choses to live to be there for Sayla and Edouard while the latter leaves with his friend, Charles Azrael Noble, to join the Zeon Defense Academy for their own reasons. A little while after the shuttle they are on is destroyed in a skirmish which leaves the future Char as the sole survivor rescued by Zeon, Sayla tells her adopted father that she can't stand seeing him suffering for her and lets him know that she will be able to take care of herself before he takes an euthanasia. Heartbroken, and finding things at New Texas disconcerting with some colonists favoring Zeon as Charles' parents blame Edouard for what happened to their boy, Sayla takes up the Yashima family's offer, and moves to Side 7 "Sept" to learn medicine, mechanics, and self-defense with Mirai until the day comes for them to join the Federal Armed Forces.

      One day at the only Sept colony, Green, Mirai and Sayla go looking for Lucifer when he finds himself out of Sayla's home. Seeing no sign of him, Sayla starts crying in grief on how the ones she loved left her from her birth family to now her own pet before Mirai tells her she'll be there for her as long as she can be and that other people who care for her will come in her life. That's when a young Amuro shows up having found, struggled with, and carried Lucifer from a not so far away place before hearing the girls and getting straight to them. Sayla's tears become more joyful and she officially meets the shy Amuro who she saw on some occasions, but never actually spoke with until he returns her cat.

      For the next several years, Amuro, Sayla, Mirai, Hayato, Kai, and Fraw become a good clique in their colony as the One Year War approaches with Amuro being there for Sayla the most when Lucifer finally gives out from old age. However, there are still some problems regarding the distance some feel with their families, their fears of war being on the horizon, and their love interests.

      I thought I'd pick up some new names for better differentiation. New Texas for the colony while Old Texas is the state. Charles Azrael Noble sounded like a better source for Edouard's new identity and like I said, I wasn't big on him selling his own friend to die. Side 7's official name struck me that it would cause some confusion with Bright, so I decided to use the first four letters of the month when the White Base officially fought in the war as a new name. I actually had no idea it was a real word until I looked it up. Also, I'd give Char a scar or so along his face to give a better reason to tell people why he wears his mask. Maybe change his namesake's appearance to a degree as well.

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    • After the OYW Amuro and his mother reconnect.

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    • Observer Supreme wrote:

      Speaking of Amuro, I hate the way he and Kamille were treated by their rather opinionated and career-minded parents. I'd rather let them have moments of genuine family love. Not that I want them turned into saps. It's Gundam, not Winnie the Pooh.

      To what User:Chriseasley said, why later rather than sooner? As in after Amuro cools down and tells his mom what he's been through among other things. As I stated on my introduction blog, I hated what Kamaria did to her own son. Tomino most likely didn't introduce Amuro in the best way imaginable, but his predicaments were slightly understandable compared to that women's mindset. Still, I would like them to reach an understanding, but it's unlikely she would play much of a role in the postwar era. Either illness, accident, or battle would work. It somewhat depends on whether I can think of a job for her. For some reason, I figured her debut episode introduced her as an assist to doctors while User:Zakuboy0079 has a story that had her be a past secretary for an admiral.

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      Observer Supreme wrote:

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      GMPilot0079 wrote: Branching off of your last paragraph though this doesn't occur in the Origin, the fact that so many youths were conscripted by the Federation could be a point of contention; the Federation is left with a war torn Earth and half of mankind dead-thus they would be financially strapped to do anything. Thus certain things are "cut" such as benefits for non-active veterans and enlisted soldiers/pilots. For example the United States is currently having issues with veterans' lack of benefits-such things could echo current things like that. Thus a percieved lack of commitment to the men who served on the Federation's part could be a minor thing. 

      Okay. Sounds interesting.

      A little update. Aside from enlisted youths, the Feds would be desperate enough to conscript certain prisoners and mentally disturbed individuals so long as their unwelcoming tendencies aren't performed on Federal civilians and soldiers on a needless basis and such a policy is enforced, maintained, and evaluated by Hymen which he uses in his own power plays and planning for his eventual T.I.T.A.N.I.C. forces. Those prisoners/mental patients who the Federal government feels they can't recruit or care for are quickly "euthanized" in the name of the greater good. More better soldiers like Secretary General Revil aren't proud of it, but are ordered to allow it by the panicked President and Assemblymen. Leaving many people hoping that on the off chance of Revil surviving the war and winning it for the Earth will put him in a position to change the whole Sphere just as Tomino described it was in his novels where Amuro literally got in bed with Sayla before getting killed for whatever crazy reason.

      Of course, as WZA pointed to me on my fan fiction account, some Earthling fanatics who lost loved ones to the Zeeks would be just as good.

      Especially if they're former POWs of Zeon.

      I chose Secretary General for Federal C-In-C because it sounded like a good alternative to Supreme Commander for the Zeons than simple General. Might make Jon Kowen and Jamitov Hymen potential candidates for the title.

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    • Would want to work on personalities and talents of so-called flat characters like Hymen and Om as well. Give them some I.Q. points for good measure, be more pronounced on their motives, and portray their relationship as very contentious considering the former is killing en mass for a plan while the latter is planning for a mass killing.

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    • Because this would be novelized, I'd like to work on describing tactics, economics, and politics as well as science, history, and basic fighting. For example, my take on the Zabi family starts with them becoming rich and influential business-wise by following the Earth Federation's "suggestions" before the civic-minded Degwin takes a political position on a more centrist stance followed by his four sons and two daughters. Once founded, the Principality of Zeon would be an "official" enlightened absolute monarchy that runs on a form of state capitalism overseen, invested, and stock-held by the aristocracy and royalty. With the latter following a stance of working for the nation and encouraging others to do the same. But while the Zeons act the part of a "masterpiece society", it won't stop them from taking advantage of loopholes in the Antarctic Treaty among other things in their quest to lay the foundations of a grand empire where all of Humanity answers to the Zabi Sovereigns.

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    • Regardless of what the guys who are making The Origin OVA decide, I want to end the first part not when Casval and Artesia leave Munzo, but move to almost a year where they are adopted and Degwin announces his new order Palpatine style.

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    • While I don't know why it seems to be Gundam tradition for a lot of Gundam characters to be referred to like "Captain Bask", "Admiral Jamitov", and such, I prefer to follow a more realistic point of reference. For example, if this was Gundam Wing, I'd call Treize Khushrenada, "Colonel Khushrenada" among his troops, but I wouldn't mind having some characters calling some high ranking people by their first name and their rank on the off chance there's more of them somewhere such as the Zabi family.

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    • See what I mean?

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    • Observer Supreme wrote:

      Xanbie wrote: The role of cloning technology could be explain with the need of workforce (the OYW kill a lot of people in is early day), or for the war: instead of making each man a super newtype soldier, make one supe newtype soldier and clone him/her. Finally cloning technology could be used to keep "pure" human (without evolution or mutation in genes), i mean that's some people don't want human to evolve physically or culturally / socially and they see the change as a bad thing.

      For Gato i'm not really agree, he is an extremist and he is the exemple that's some people can not change the way they think. I can not see him go out of his "madness", but if you want to do a more philanthropic Mobile Suit Gundam why not.

      An oder idea for anaheim's conglomera: AESC (Anaheim Earth and Solar system Corporation) which show the power and the domination of anaheim on the solar system for 100 first year of the U.C.

      That sounds promising. I was thinking for reasons why people would be interested in it and how Axis Zeon came to be a bit tough for the Earth aligned forces. Not that the idea of a force of 30,000+ sounds impossible, uninteresting, or uninspiring, but I think there should've been more that two conjoined asteroids could carry and I was actually thinking of adding at least two more named after Degwin's first and second wives.

      Maybe, but I was thinking on what if instead of going all guns blazing against even allies like Cima, Kou opts to see the truth of her sincerity to end the violence in her voice if not her eyes and upon seeing Nina act a little emotional, he tries to convince Gato of the negative consequences for Earthlings and Spacers alike from the drop. He could use the rumors of the operation still being negotiated between Hymen and those in charge to convince the guy some things aren't worth it if they only breed more injustice. Besides, I don't think it's less philanthropic than bitter sweet.

      Sounds good, but mankind in the show's wasn't seen to have built solar farms on Mercury while the habitats at Axis and Jupiter are more like rogue states than anything. I like to explain that was because Georges Mercenas and his group were easily bribed by traditional fueling corporations that would've gone out of business if helium 3 energy was more available and easily paranoid from the talk of colonial rebellion and hostile alien first contact which is why the Jupiter Energy Fleet isn't exactly noteworthy or seen to have their own colonies at first. I think the kind of NGO they are is more governmentally organized in real life than the public would like to know. Which makes them easy pickings for help from the Zabis who I think can be considered the greater scoop villains of the era by inspiring not only their own remnants, but many other would be conquerers as well.

      From what I understand about Wing, the colonists there used test tube infants in the face of some mothers dying in childbirth as was the case of Quatre Raberba Winner's mother. I guess that could be one reason cloning is around.

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    • Also, I'm a little curious on how I'd use the characters and events used in games, manga that hasn't been animated yet, and whatever kind of stuff people like Johnny Ridden are used in. I like Johnny and Shin Matsunaga because they help expand on Kycillia and Dozle's characters, but it would seem like a lot to work on everything else.

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    • I do have plans for Johnny, Shin, and Al Cuzco. I just need to figure out how they all mix.

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    • Normally, I'm not much of a fan of OCs, but I do like the possibilities for Miharu Zabi, and I've thought of at least two that I think fit with the story. Degwin's first wife, Kishiria Zabi, mother of the first three sons who's name is where Kycilia is derived from and the guy who made the Bardot Policy.

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    • I'm probably going to have to rethink my ultraviolet missile idea. Photon and plasma weapons might work as well, if they don't count as nuclear.

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    • Observer Supreme wrote:

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      GMPilot0079 wrote: Branching off of your last paragraph though this doesn't occur in the Origin, the fact that so many youths were conscripted by the Federation could be a point of contention; the Federation is left with a war torn Earth and half of mankind dead-thus they would be financially strapped to do anything. Thus certain things are "cut" such as benefits for non-active veterans and enlisted soldiers/pilots. For example the United States is currently having issues with veterans' lack of benefits-such things could echo current things like that. Thus a percieved lack of commitment to the men who served on the Federation's part could be a minor thing. 

      Okay. Sounds interesting.

      A little update. Aside from enlisted youths, the Feds would be desperate enough to conscript certain prisoners and mentally disturbed individuals so long as their unwelcoming tendencies aren't performed on Federal civilians and soldiers on a needless basis and such a policy is enforced, maintained, and evaluated by Hymen which he uses in his own power plays and planning for his eventual T.I.T.A.N.I.C. forces. Those prisoners/mental patients who the Federal government feels they can't recruit or care for are quickly "euthanized" in the name of the greater good. More better soldiers like Secretary General Revil aren't proud of it, but are ordered to allow it by the panicked President and Assemblymen. Leaving many people hoping that on the off chance of Revil surviving the war and winning it for the Earth will put him in a position to change the whole Sphere just as Tomino described it was in his novels where Amuro literally got in bed with Sayla before getting killed for whatever crazy reason.

      Of course, as WZA pointed to me on my fan fiction account, some Earthling fanatics who lost loved ones to the Zeeks would be just as good.

      Especially if they're former POWs of Zeon.

      I chose Secretary General for Federal C-In-C because it sounded like a good alternative to Supreme Commander for the Zeons than simple General. Might make Jon Kowen and Jamitov Hymen potential candidates for the title.

      Actually, according to the new information released on the origin website, Gopp was Revil's successor for the peace negotiations. I really got to start watching Gundam in full, but where I'm at, the wi-fi is terribly limited.

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    • It's not easy when you're thinking more and working less. Trust me.

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    • Sorry, I haven't posted on here lately. Got occupied with other projects and such. Even made some Gundam YouTube videos, but that's for my other thread. After some thinking, I decided a month or so ago, that I'd learn about the Gundam franchises episode by movie by manga. It will help with both my writing and my contributing to this wiki.

      For now, let's wait until The Origin reaches it's OVA conclusion (which I hope doesn't remake the original show while it's at it), before we can go forward. I like watching things in chronological order, like Star Wars prequel trilogy first followed by origins and new movies.

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    • The first thing I would do would ENSURE that the Republic of Zeon does not fold back into the Federation, and reclaim some of its former glory after removing the warmongerers like Gihren and Kycillia loyalists. I would then move all of the Side 3 Colonies from Lagrange Point 2, and relocate them to the Mars sphere, far away from the influense of the Earth Federation, and basically say this: Feddies, you can HAVE Earth, let your souls be dragged down by gravity. Just DON'T. MESS. WITH. US.

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    • 117Jorn wrote: The first thing I would do would ENSURE that the Republic of Zeon does not fold back into the Federation, and reclaim some of its former glory after removing the warmongerers like Gihren and Kycillia loyalists. I would then move all of the Side 3 Colonies from Lagrange Point 2, and relocate them to the Mars sphere, far away from the influense of the Earth Federation, and basically say this: Feddies, you can HAVE Earth, let your souls be dragged down by gravity. Just DON'T. MESS. WITH. US.

      Well, that does sound like an interesting AU.

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