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  • Item 1 Background

    Are we ok with the Nu vs the Sazabi or is it time for a change?

    Decision: Background changed to mobile suit from a recent series with the RX-78-2 Gundam image from Perfect File.

    Item 2 Colors

    Currently:

    • The navigation menu and buttons are red (#DC143C)
    • The banner is red (#DC143C)
    • The links are blue (#0148C2)
    • The content background is light grey (#F2F2F2) and unformatted text on it is dark grey (#3A3A3A)

    Is change needed?

    Decision: Bottom banner is now gold

    Item 3 Infobox Styles

    Since we'll be using portable infoboxes from now on, which style are most people comfortable with?

    • Europa which is automatically based on what colors we used for the theme. Currently, it is red (#DC143C).  See current mobile weapon pages for an example

    Item 4 Navigation Menu

    We can only put seven eras under Characters and Mechanics, which seven of the many eras do you think should be up there and it what order?

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    • Item 1

      Should we change the background, if so what should it include?

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    • Background needs to be changed for the fact that it isn't cropped correctly and isn't official art. Besides being old

      I suggest making the content background solid white

      Regarding the eras, just put the most popular ones and the last 3 animes: UC, AW, CE, AD, RC, BF, PD

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    • Balofo wrote:
      Background needs to be changed for the fact that it isn't cropped correctly and isn't official art. Besides being old

      I suggest making the content background solid white

      Regarding the eras, just put the most popular ones and the last 3 animes: UC, AW, CE, AD, RC, BF, PD

      Are you sure this is not official?

      What do you have in mind to replace the Nu and the Sazabi?

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    • Gundam Perfect File is not white official, at most it's grey. I have nothing in mind but we shoudl use artwork from the anime productions.

      Fortress are you adding the format tags to my infobox or are you making a new one?

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    • Balofo wrote:
      Gundam Perfect File is not white official, at most it's grey. I have nothing in mind but we shoudl use artwork from the anime productions.

      Fortress are you adding the format tags to my infobox or are you making a new one?

      I'll  be making a new one so I can see your Test Page as a reference for what new labels to use.

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    • cool, then I will wait for it before making any new contributions.

      BTW could you please add the following optional equipment labels?

      -Descent: parachutes

      -Storage: backpacks like the Ground Gundam ones

      -Weapon Platform: Orchis and Meteors

      -Propellant: extra propellant tanks, e.g. Sentinel grunts

      I'm researching more

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    • Item 1- If we used something from IBO like the silhouette revel last year or maybe a shot of the Lupus, that I think would would do as a place holder background for the time being. Item 3- I think the current style is ok for the moment but i'll wait until the new infobox is finished as it may require some tweeks. Item 4- Something like UC - PD - BF - RC - AD - CE - CC

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    • The RX-78-2 or RX-78-02 should be visible somewhere in the background.

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    • Maybe RX-78 on one side and Barbatos on the other, whenever we get a new television series we'll swap the latter with the main Gundam of that series but always keep the RX-78.

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    • I just wanted to give my two cents here since I was notified of this and since I'm on this site daily just to read up on gundam, I thought my input might have some value to it at least. I think that having RX-78 on the left and then having the new title gundam on the right would be cool. Though personally I think for this type of "project" having orginal work featured from the anime may be a poor choice. I do not think the old animation cells of Mobile Suit Gundam would contrast well with the new IBO animation cells for example. MSG would seem a bit dated and out of place. Though I like the idea of showing where gundam began and where it is currently is a very intriguing thought. 

      I instead suggest maybe having some official artwork of RX-78, then it would at least look pretty sharp there and would still maintain the theme of old vs new.

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    • Any idea of what recent official art can we use? I'm thinking of cropping the RX-78-02 rise poster for the 35th anniversary.

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    • Oh yeah, I really like the rise posters! I think itd be nice to have a choice of variety, so Im gonna suggest the MG RX-78-02 Gundam One Year War Version box art. I think the box art is a cool rendition of the iconic scene of Gundam destroying a Zaku II on Side 7.

      Here is an image of the box art with all the MG water marks and stuff are gone.

      http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/conceptrobots/2011/real_gundam/gundam_01.jpg

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    • BackgroundCandidate1
      Here's what it looks like, the RX-78-2 head fits snugly into the slither between the left side of the window and the left side of the page. Just using the MG 1/100 RX-0 Unicorn Gundam 02 Banshee as an example, as said the right side can be changed. So this is what it would look like if we were to use the MG RX-78-2 Ver. One Year War 0079 art as part of the background.
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    • Since the Rise Posters have an art style closer to what's usually seen in anime it fits better with the G-Tekketsu Season 2 poster I used for the right side. However, the original art cut off the foot of the RX-78-02 so the top part of the image is quite bare.
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    • Background candidates so far:


      Art of a Gundam from a recent series currently includes:

      Keep the suggestions going.

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    • hmm how about this one?

      1280x720-5Qj
      this might be a bit big though......
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    • No. Bad filename.

      I say it should be either RX-78-2 or RX-78-02, simply because it's THE Gundam.

      I'm actually fine with current Nu vs Sazabi, but if it's fan art then it should be changed.

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    • Kuruni wrote:
      No. Bad filename.

      I say it should be either RX-78-2 or RX-78-02, simply because it's THE Gundam.

      I'm actually fine with current Nu vs Sazabi, but if it's fan art then it should be changed.

      The original image the current background is modified from is copyrighted by Sotsu (創通) and Sunrise, it was done by three artists and Atelier Musa, the company that did backgrounds for at most 24 Gundam anime.

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    • Slayer-Shinkage wrote:
      hmm how about this one?
      1280x720-5Qj
      this might be a bit big though......

      I previewed it in the theme editor, if we don't edit it, it will just be the shoulder and the foot of the Gundam. It's possible to get either Kudelia or the Gundam head into the one of the spaces either side of the content but not both without ugly cropping at the top or bottom.

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    • Why did I get notified about this conversation ? I thought you had to leave a comment in a conversation like this first, before getting notified about new comments.

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    • Alex0079 wrote:
      Why did I get notified about this conversation ? I thought you had to leave a comment in a conversation like this first, before getting notified about new comments.

      It was a highlighted announcement, which means that all Gundam Wiki users got the message and the thread is importaint.


      Also, I like the RX-78-2 Rise Poster and art from recent Gundam series idea.

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    • KachiExa wrote:

      Alex0079 wrote:
      Why did I get notified about this conversation ? I thought you had to leave a comment in a conversation like this first, before getting notified about new comments.

      It was a highlighted announcement, which means that all Gundam Wiki users got the message and the thread is importaint.
      Okay,

      Also, I like the RX-78-2 Rise Poster and art from recent Gundam series idea.

      Okay then, I see.

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    • I've been hanging around this wikia as an anon for a while now, just reading up on gundam.

      I came accross this thread and thought I might try making a suggestion.

      It's a bit of a stretch and would require some major editing, but I thought this would be a nice idea:

      On the left put some of the more iconic/noteworthy Federation mobile suits from the Universal Century timeline and on the right put some of the more iconic/noteworthy Principality of Zeon mobile suits.

      These could include (but are not limited to):

      The RX-78-2 Gundam

      Gundam Unicorn

      The RGM-79 GM

      The RX-79[G} Gundam Ground Type

      Char's MS-06S Zaku 2 or another one of his custom mobile suits.

      The MS-06 Zaku 2

      The MS-09B Dom

      The MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam

      The AMS-119 Geara Doga

      (these are just a few that I could think of, not saying they should all be used)

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    • I think that someone should photoshop together a back ground with the main gundams of various series. (some must haves are the original rx-78-2, zeta , nu gundam, wing zero/wing gundam)

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    • I think having the MG RX-78-2 for the left side of the background and the Barbatos Lupus from IBO Season 2's poster on the right is a good idea, but I'm wondering if it's not possible to put another image at the top-middle as a 'title banner' or something along those lines.


      As for what timelines to put under the "Series" label, I'd say Post-Disaster, Universal Century, Future Century, After Colony, Cosmic Era, Anno Domini, and Correct Century. Future Century could arguably be replaced with After War or Build Fighters, and Post-Disaster can be made to go anywhere on the list.

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    • Frosk123 wrote:
      I've been hanging around this wikia as an anon for a while now, just reading up on gundam.

      I came accross this thread and thought I might try making a suggestion.

      It's a bit of a stretch and would require some major editing, but I thought this would be a nice idea:

      On the left put some of the more iconic/noteworthy Federation mobile suits from the Universal Century timeline and on the right put some of the more iconic/noteworthy Principality of Zeon mobile suits.

      These could include (but are not limited to):

      The RX-78-2 Gundam

      Gundam Unicorn

      The RGM-79 GM

      The RX-79[G} Gundam Ground Type

      Char's MS-06S Zaku 2 or another one of his custom mobile suits.

      The MS-06 Zaku 2

      The MS-09B Dom

      The MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam

      The AMS-119 Geara Doga

      (these are just a few that I could think of, not saying they should all be used)


      BackgroundCandidate3

      Main fed suits of tv series and movies (pre-UC 100) vs their rival Zeon suits.

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    • Not sure if this is the right place to put it, but am I the only one getting problems like this?

      Problem
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    • Well, Heero Yuy's article is fine now. The problem is regular commas "," are different from commas with "tails" on their right which is used in East Asian text "" which is what appears in your image.

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    • FortressMaximus wrote:
      Main f
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      ed suits of tv series and movies (pre-UC 100) vs their rival Zeon suits.

      Reminds me of the Macross Wiki background except with MS rather then people

      Though I like Nu vs Sazabi as it elaborates on the fight between Char and Amuro and is one of the greatest fights in the Gundam universe

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    • TheTrollestSuperSaiyen wrote:
      I think that someone should photoshop together a back ground with the main gundams of various series. (some must haves are the original rx-78-2, zeta , nu gundam, wing zero/wing gundam)
      Candidate 4: Mix of UC and non-UC main gundams.
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    • I like the 4th Candidate the most, though I wonder if it's possible to fit the ZZ in there somewhere just for completionism.

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    • Candidate 5: An MS from a recent series (Barbatos for example) with the RX-78-2 Gundam (image from Perfect File).

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    • BACKGROUND POLL

      "A mobile suit from a recent series" i.e. it does not have to be MG RX-78-2 art with the Banshee, it could also be with the ASW-G-08 Gundam Barbatos Lupus, YG-111 Gundam G-Self, FA-78 Full Armor Gundam (Thunderbolt Ver.) etc.

      POLL IS CLOSED, CLICK FOR ARCHIVE OF FINAL RESULTS

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    • Two weeks over, it's been decided that we will use an image of a mobile suit from a recent series, currently the ASW-G-08 Gundam Barbatos Lupus, with an image of the RX-78-2 Gundam from Perfect File for a background.

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    • Item 2

      Any suggestions for new color schemes?

      • Color of navigation menu (and certain buttons)
      • Color of banner at the bottom of the screen.
      • Color of hyperlinks.
      • Color of content background (and certain buttons)
      • Color of unformatted text on content background.
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    • FortressMaximus wrote:
      Item 2Any suggestions for new color schemes?
      • Color of navigation menu (and certain buttons)
      • Color of banner at the bottom of the screen.
      • Color of hyperlinks.
      • Color of content background (and certain buttons)
      • Color of unformatted text on content background.


      I kind of like the red banner and navigation menu, but I guess it depends on what everyone else thinks

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    • I like red, too. I was thinking we could make the bottom banner yellow so we'd have a red, yellow, blue and white, the traditional colors of a Gundam.

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    • That actually sounds like a pretty good idea

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    • Anyone else want to propose a new color scheme?

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    • Two weeks over, the bottom banner will be yellow/gold.

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    • Item 3

      Although there's been few complaints about the Europa theme so far, an issue a user mentioned prompted me to finish styling and coding the portable character infobox and included the ability to change the image section backgrounds.

      I've refined some other things to:

      • Anime to Television since movies and OVAs are anime, too.
      • Photo Novel to Novel, not sure why it was like that.
      • Moved alias to its own row, all infoboxes have English, Kanji and Romaji properties. The English property in particular allows the user to determine the display title of the page if it does not match the url e.g. Tem Ray (Origin) will show up as and Tem Ray and if the entity appears in other infoboxes, it will also show correctly e.g. Earth Federation Forces (Origin) will show up as Earth Federation Forces.

      Read more here

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    • Hi. I wanted to ask something. While we are on the subject of aesthetics and such. I've been thinking, maybe it's time to replace some of the old pictures for some of the character's profiles, with newer and better looking ones? And I don't mean official artworks, I mean, how about replacing them with screenshots from the Anime/Movies the respected characters come from? I am perfectly willing to do this myself if necessary. But, I wanted to ask if that's ok with everybody first.

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    • Stick to official art.

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    • But we don't have official art for every character available. Besides. Several, if not most of the character pages already use images/screenshots straight from the shows, movies, OVA etc.

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    • Plus, almoast every other Wiki does it this way. Not to mention that there galleries pretty much exist for the official artwork.

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    • Many wiki lets anonymous asshole make irresponsible comment to article too, and I'm glad we don't follow that stupidity.

      In otehr words, just because mass do it doesn't make it wise, it's actually opposite.

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    • AlexKai00 wrote: Hi. I wanted to ask something. While we are on the subject of aesthetics and such. I've been thinking, maybe it's time to replace some of the old pictures for some of the character's profiles, with newer and better looking ones? And I don't mean official artworks, I mean, how about replacing them with screenshots from the Anime/Movies the respected characters come from? I am perfectly willing to do this myself if necessary. But, I wanted to ask if that's ok with everybody first.

      As long as you state the exact episode you screenshotted from.
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    • Do black(#000) or navy navy blue (navy) work as colors or should it be the current red (#DC143C)?

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    • Kuruni wrote:
      Many wiki lets anonymous asshole make irresponsible comment to article too, and I'm glad we don't follow that stupidity.

      In otehr words, just because mass do it doesn't make it wise, it's actually opposite.

      I fail to see how making comments is the same as making edits to pages. And I fail to see how allowing people to make "irresponcible comments" is "stupidity". And on a matter of "assholes", how are you any different? You're rude and you're very condescending. You should work on your manners. You sound like a spoiled brat.

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    • FortressMaximus wrote:

      AlexKai00 wrote: Hi. I wanted to ask something. While we are on the subject of aesthetics and such. I've been thinking, maybe it's time to replace some of the old pictures for some of the character's profiles, with newer and better looking ones? And I don't mean official artworks, I mean, how about replacing them with screenshots from the Anime/Movies the respected characters come from? I am perfectly willing to do this myself if necessary. But, I wanted to ask if that's ok with everybody first.

      As long as you state the exact episode you screenshotted from.

      Thank you. I will do just that.

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    • AlexKai00 wrote:

      I fail to see how making comments is the same as making edits to pages. And I fail to see how allowing people to make "irresponcible comments" is "stupidity".

      It isn't the same, yes, but that doesn't make it a good thing. And how is it stupidity? Surprise, there's study result that anonymous users are more likely to be uncivil. "[...]full fifty-three per cent of anonymous commenters were uncivil, as opposed to twenty-nine per cent of registered, non-anonymous commenters."

      (BTW, if it's "irresponcible", then there's no doubt it's stupid)

      AlexKai00 wrote:

      And on a matter of "assholes", how are you any different? You're rude and you're very condescending. You should work on your manners. You sound like a spoiled brat.

      For starter, asshole make personal attack. Sometime they masked it with passive-aggressive attitude, sound calm, but aim to attack/mocking the other side nonetheless. I were uncivil, sure, but it isn't aim directly toward anyone.

      You did, however. In fact, I'm thinking of make you being a little more responsible to your own post.

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    • I doubt the credibility of that study. From personal experience, I didn't see many "assholes" among anonymous commenters on Wikis. Then how about ignoring them? Don't reply to them if all they do is make personal attacks. Problem solved. Oh, really? Weren't you being an "asshole" to Blayaden? What did I do? Indirectly call you a rude asshole, just because you act like one? Well, sorry for telling the truth.

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    • There, second personal attack. Time to cool your head, kid.

      Well, we don't have to deal with them because this place doesn't allow them, so it isn't problem here from start and I'm pretty sure nobody going to add that feature. Why you're so work up when I mentioned it is beyond me.

      AlexKai00 wrote:

      Weren't you being an "asshole" to Blayaden?

      No, I were tired on the issue with that image and he did just restored the image after it got revert. He claim the whole thing is unfortunate series of event and he does prove himself later by actually find a proper image to used. Yes, I'm indeed wronged about him. Well, I should write him an apologize... Yes, I were pretty bad there. Still, it has nothing to does with you or how your personal experience matter, go find another study report.

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    • AlexKai00 wrote:
      I doubt the credibility of that study. From personal experience, I didn't see many "assholes" among anonymous commenters on Wikis. Then how about ignoring them? Don't reply to them if all they do is make personal attacks. Problem solved. Oh, really? Weren't you being an "asshole" to Blayaden? What did I do? Indirectly call you a rude asshole, just because you act like one? Well, sorry for telling the truth.

      Stay on topic, please.

      We don't have comments here not (only) because of personal attacks but the general eyesore and loading times. Do you want comments filled with "I hate this *****" on Flay or Katz's pages?

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    • That's a good point. But I wasn't arguing against not having comments.

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    • Whatever the point, I just finish thinking. And come to conclusion that personal attack is personal attack. Yes, I used harsh words and insult the stupidity of annymous people. Somehow you get upset by that that insult me. As I said, time to cool your head.

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    • Whelp, this has gone off topic.

      FortressMaximus , changing "anime" to "television" seems a little unecessary. Most people I've met have generally never referred to an OVA as just an anime. Although, to be fair, I didn't know the difference until one of my mates told me a few years ago.

      In all honesty I don't have much of a problem with the change, just wanted to give my 2 cents worth.

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    • Hi, I guess I'm half a year late to this, but I'd like to add my thoughts.

      To start with, I like what you've done with the infobox, FortressMaximus. Changing "anime" to "television" is clearer, and "photo novel" to "novel" is broader. I also like how the order of the mediums has been rearranged so as to prioritize anime (in all its forms), then manga, then novels, then games, instead of… the weird, seemingly-random order that exists now.

      However, I have a few additional suggestions for how to improve the infobox. These are all things I noticed when editing the 08th MS Team pages, so for reference, let's look at Karen Joshua's page.

      First: I suggest tweaking the order so that OVAs are listed second (after television), instead of movies. I say this because most (if not all) of the OVAs present original stories and content, while most of the movies are compilations or adaptations of existing material. But by listing movies second, it effectively prioritizes the compilations over more consequential material. We can see an extreme instance of this with Karen's page, where the infobox lists her appearance in Miller's Report before the OVA itself… which just doesn't seem correct.

      Second: I feel like there should be a better system for abbreviating (or not) series names. Again looking at Karen's page, we see the OVA truncated to "08th MST", while the movie gets its full title of "Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team, Miller's Report", as does the short film "Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team - Battle in Three Dimensions". Alongside two long titles, the source material practically gets lost! At the very least, the latter two ought to be cut down to "08th MST - Miller's Report" etc. Personally, though I would like to see the base material listed by full subtitle (in this case: "The 08th MS Team") instead of being abbreviated.

      Third: I know that many fields will automatically generate a link for each input; is there a way to cancel this link? This would be useful for "family members" sections, as many characters have family members who are only mentioned in passing. To once more look at Karen, it lists her deceased, nameless husband— a character who does not, in any way, have enough information to justify the creation of a page, and whose red link does not serve any real purpose.

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    • Charchetype wrote:
      Second: I feel like there should be a better system for abbreviating (or not) series names. Again looking at Karen's page, we see the OVA truncated to "08th MST", while the movie gets its full title of "Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team, Miller's Report", as does the short film "Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team - Battle in Three Dimensions". Alongside two long titles, the source material practically gets lost! At the very least, the latter two ought to be cut down to "08th MST - Miller's Report" etc. Personally, though I would like to see the base material listed by full subtitle (in this case: "The 08th MS Team") instead of being abbreviated.

      The short name is displayed if you specify episodes or chapters, this isn't applicable to movies so they always display the full English name, so you're saying always display these abbreviations regardless of whether the instalments in the media are specified?

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    • FortressMaximus wrote:

      The short name is displayed if you specify episodes or chapters, this isn't applicable to movies so they always display the full English name

      Oh, that makes… a lot of sense, actually. Hm.

      I guess what I'm pointing out is how, if an episode range isn't specified, then the titles can be uneven ("08th MST" for one, "Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team, Miller's Report" for another), and that it looks inconsistent and— to me!— distracting. Maybe it could be done so that the television/OVA title is only abbreviated if there's no episode range specified? Is that possible?

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    • For the Character Infobox I've decided to merge appearances with voice actors under the "Real World" header, this will include a new paramter "Portrayed by" for live action actors.

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    • INFOBOX POLL

      What theme should be used for the portable infoboxes?
       
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      The poll was created at 15:43 on July 10, 2018, and so far 6 people voted.
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    • Um… what's the difference? :x

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    • Charchetype wrote: Um… what's the difference? :x

      FortressMaximus wrote:

      Since we'll be using portable infoboxes from now on, which style are most people comfortable with?

      • Europa which is automatically based on what colors we used for the theme. Currently, it is red (#DC143C).  See current mobile weapon pages for an example

      Edit: I've swapped movie and OVA rows like you suggested.

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    • Should all named ships get their own pages (we do this with the Pegasus-class and ships in that line) or should they all be redirects to their class's article (as we do with Musai-class)?

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    • So we've got a mecha piloted, vessels crewed/commanded. Should there be another collapsible section for what mecha/vessels are character was a passenger on? i.e. wasn't a pilot or member of crew; just there for the ride.

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    • If I'm understanding you, that would be for stuff like… when Shiro Amada rode the transport ship to Earth at the start of 08th MS Team? I don't think it's necessary, but I guess it couldn't hurt.

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    • To accomodate the stage actors for the Gundam 00 cast; I've approved the draft for the character infobox.

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